Loyalty to the organisation is more important than truth or intelligence.
This is what they expect. In my mind, that defines evil intent.
joey jojo
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Do you have any evidence that the GB had bad intent?
by AlainAlam indo you have any evidence that the gb had bad intent?
as opposed to blind faith/cognitive dissonance and honest mistakes.. i'm inclined to think they have the best of intentions and are just wrong (primarily because the bible is wrong), but i'm willing to consider the evidence otherwise..
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I'm interested in discussing basic JW doctrines that you believe are unscriptural
by AlainAlam inbackground info: although i'm an apostate, i don't hate jehovah's witnesses, or the organization itself.
actually i find that many derogatory comments here are extremely biased.
i think most of them are amazing people, and i wish more non-witnesses were like them.
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joey jojo
Hi A. A.
In my experience, after 20 odd years of searching for the real truth, I've found that the deeper you dig, the more crumbled the foundations of belief get.
You are talking about doctrines based on a book that has contradictions, errors and biases. Clever church leaders have used it to control people throughout the entire modern era.
Doctrines of all churches are based on speculation, faith and interpretation. Jesus himself, who is God to some people, did not even state what the official canon of the bible should be, and neither did any of his apostles.
Any discussion of doctrine is based on an assumption that the core structure is accurate.
When it comes to the bible, that assumption is based on faith, which is not the same as truth.
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Legal Concerns About "Zoom" Meetings!
by Atlantis inthis whole "zoom" thing has got me wondering whether some of it is legal or not.
if a person has to dress up for a zoom meeting the way the watchtower dictates, doesn't this really go "beyond" cult?.
even the cults who committed mass suicide were able to dress the way they wanted for their meetings.
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joey jojo
Good topic Petra,.
On another post I read something that I agree with, that is the need for wt to stay relevant in the lives of its members.
I'm sure there are a lot of members that are enjoying not being able to go preaching or attend meetings. The conference calls make sure no one forgets they are always under scrutiny and keeps the f. O. G. levels high.
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When this is over...
by joey jojo inwhat will the world be like once this pandemic is over?
the world has been through this before, in the form of the bubonic plague and it left changes to life still felt today, especially in regards to the economic system.
so many people dying meant a smaller working class that meant their skills and labour was suddenly more valuable which in turn raised wages.
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joey jojo
I was thinking that the way people do business might change a little, some might get used to using conference chats and never go back to the old way of doing business.
Virtual gyms are now a thing. No need to get in your car and travel, just log in to zoom/ GoToMeeting etc and start your work out. The instructor can see you and give you feedback. Personally I think gyms provide good, positive energy over and above the actual work-out that Im not sure virtual gyms will replace the traditional gyms, although there still might be a place for online training once things go back to normal.
Economically, I think the worst is yet to come. The share market seems to be just hanging on but as things start to bite I wouldn't be surprised if it dropped again. (Just my two cents)
Will be an interesting few months ahead.
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When this is over...
by joey jojo inwhat will the world be like once this pandemic is over?
the world has been through this before, in the form of the bubonic plague and it left changes to life still felt today, especially in regards to the economic system.
so many people dying meant a smaller working class that meant their skills and labour was suddenly more valuable which in turn raised wages.
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joey jojo
What will the world be like once this pandemic is over?
The world has been through this before, in the form of the bubonic plague and it left changes to life still felt today, especially in regards to the economic system.
So many people dying meant a smaller working class that meant their skills and labour was suddenly more valuable which in turn raised wages.
I know this pandemic is different but I wonder how, if at all, the world will change?
There will probably be unexpected changes that we don't see yet. I'm wondering what they might be.
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Oz starting to shut down
by joey jojo inaustralia has closed gyms, churches, restaurants, pubs (oh no), beaches.
most state borders are now closed.
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joey jojo
Australia has closed gyms, churches, restaurants, pubs (oh no), beaches. Most state borders are now closed.
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Rumor of Religion wanting to contact Inactives
by LongHairGal ini saw a post on reddit from somebody claiming to be an elder that the jw religion wants to contact all inactives.. some of the responses indicate that some were contacted or had close friends or relatives being asked for their contact information.
some of these people have been out of the jw religion for many years and have moved on.
the ones contacted said the jw informed them about cancelled meetings (as though they would care).
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joey jojo
Someone posted a recent directive from hq here a few days ago that mentioned this.
It said something along the lines of elders reaching out to inactive people because they may be 'moved' by current events.
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Covid-19 (Coronavirus) - Status Update Thread
by Simon inthis topic is to focus on status updates & advice (no opinion or politics please).. status.
latest status is that it's serious, probably isn't going to be contained and most large companies are making contingency plans, cancelling large events etc... which i don't think would happen if it was just people being alarmist.
the incubation period means it may have already spread further and infected many more people than are currently known, so expect jumps in the numbers over the coming days and weeks.. tracking.
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Covid-19 (Coronavirus) - Status Update Thread
by Simon inthis topic is to focus on status updates & advice (no opinion or politics please).. status.
latest status is that it's serious, probably isn't going to be contained and most large companies are making contingency plans, cancelling large events etc... which i don't think would happen if it was just people being alarmist.
the incubation period means it may have already spread further and infected many more people than are currently known, so expect jumps in the numbers over the coming days and weeks.. tracking.
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joey jojo
Maybe this has already been said, but why not shut down all international borders, except for goods and trade, for 2 weeks?
It would help contain the virus and at least there is an end date, at which point it can be reassessed . A big part of the problem at the moment is wondering how long the uncertainty will prevail.
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JW's had a reason for wanting to be banned in Russia?
by Terry ininteresting video.
i'd like everybody's thoughts on this.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mrlfvxinte8&fbclid=iwar2omsj1dkm7rzxcyjblkd9aqnnp5xmijrxoc-rfaoh7ucfgvwlpkiynofs.
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joey jojo
I haven't watched it yet, but Terry, I found your explanation of it interesting.
I haven't really thought about the letter writing before, and what the real reasons for spamming letters are.
I always thought about it as a feel good exercise for the average jw and especially the children, as a way a family could write their beliefs down, send it overseas and find yet another way to indoctrinate their kids.
But it sounds like the idea of a mis-information / misdirection campaign makes sense too. Nothing the GB does would surprise me.